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A Marketer in a Sales World: Will it blend?

Posted by Mary Lee Shalvoy on Thu, Aug 19, 2010
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Lost in a sales world.

Have you ever seen the "Will it Blend?" video series? It's a series of videos of a guy named Tom Dickson in a white lab coat using a high-powered blender to blend  objects you never thought to blend. (Check out the sacrilegious blending of an iPhone 4 here.)

I think some organizations regard blending sales and marketing in the same way Dickson throws objects into his Blendtec blender - with disdain. (A vuvuzela?)

What really is the difference between sales and marketing? Aren't we all (salespersons and marketers) trying to achieve the same goal - more sales?

If that's true - that both groups are working toward the same goal - why is there such animosity between the two groups in so many organizations? I think that the end goal is the same, but the approach and mindset are different.

A million years ago, when I worked in the publishing world, there was a distinct, and stated, difference between sales and writing/editing, a veritable "separation of church and state," as we called it. As a reporter/writer, it was a wonderful excuse to remain objective about a topic. We turned a blind eye to the concerns of the advertisers and left it all up to the sales people. We didn't let the size of advertising budgets enter our consciousness - until we got some nudging from an editor.

That separatist thinking creeps into the relationship between sales and marketing groups, creating the schism that often exists between sales and marketing teams. I've heard so many times from sales people: "I don't do marketing. I don't believe in it." On the other hand, I've heard the same from marketing types (including myself): "I'm not good at sales."

In this separatist world, the marketing group creates the content, works on sales tools and collateral, often ignoring the fact that they are really acting as sales people.

According to my colleague, Pete Krammer, sales people today must take on more of a marketing role to be successful. I believe the same can be said for marketing - to be truly successful, we need to think of ourselves more as sales people. That might mean that I extend marketing campaigns all the way through the sale to closing, not just handing off materials like a baton to the sales team.

I guess the bigger question is:  Sales and marketing, will it blend?

 

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Sales preparation: the subtle art of mind reading

Posted by Peter Krammer on Tue, Aug 10, 2010
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Here's something simple: how to read your customer's mind. Can you read it with certainty? Of course not. But can you read it with some insight? Absolutely.

Think about this for a moment: many of us rely on good psychics and fortune tellers who are right often enough to make a better living than most ordinary people. They're called stock analysts and brokers. When they're really good, we can make a fortune, or at least quite a few bucks on their predictions. How do they do it? There's nothing like a couple of well placed questions coupled with very good observation skills to predict the future.

What does this have to do with selling? Everything, really. The art of successful selling - and it most definitely is an art when it's successful - relies heavily on the skills of questioning and observation. We know that these are two pillars of selling, but what about before the sale, or aside from actual customer conversations?

Today, I'm going to focus on the most difficult customer mind-reading skill. This is the skill of preparation: studying public information, recognizing patterns, and making intelligent deductions (guesses) that more often than not allow you to peer into the mind of your customer before you ever meet them.
First, how do you prepare for a sales call? Do you psyche yourself up with positive self-talk? Do you spend your time on LinkedIn figuring out who the person is you're meeting and who you might know in common? Do you read 10-Ks and 10-Qs, shareholder letters and websites, competitive analysis and news reports?

Let's hope you're doing all of this and not winging it out there with all the other amateurs. Seriously - you are meeting at the buyer's pleasure, hoping to discover their needs and interests, so that you can earn the right to talk about your solutions. You need to be in the zone. You need to be on-message. And you need to be prepared. This is especially true during the opening minutes of an interaction with a buyer.

Download your customer's 10-Ks, 10-Qs and annual reports. In the management discussions and shareholder letters you will find your customer's view of the road behind and the road ahead - recent and long-term results, and short- and long- term goals. Did you know that you can also find out what your customer gets paid to do? Download the proxy statement and read the compensation committee report.

Now for the mind-reading part. What do the top executives get paid to do? What executive team (plus the direct reports, and the folks who report to those direct reports) ever focuses on anything other than what they get paid to do? The first answer gives you a significant glimpse into the mind of your customer. The second helps you check your assumptions.

While you're psyching yourself up and trolling LinkedIn for your next call, spend the time to research the public reporting and answer those two questions. Use your answers to prepare how you will explore your customer's interests when you meet them.

I'm interested to know how this works for you on your next few sales calls. If it does anything less than focus you and your customer on what's important to them and doesn't cause a few of your competitors to melt into the woodwork, I'll be very surprised.

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A Marketer in a Sales World

Posted by Mary Lee Shalvoy on Thu, Aug 05, 2010
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Lost!I am a marketer working in the world of sales. I am surrounded by sales experts, consultants who have earned their stripes selling and helping others sell successfully. For me, it's like living in a foreign country, with a different language and separate cultures. I talk about our mission and ideas, markets and branding, social media and Twitter. They talk about getting leads. Oh, and how long will it take to see revenue from all this marketing?

Since the dawn of commerce, there's always been a thin line between marketing (telling the story of your product) and sales (getting someone to exchange something for your product). At one point in time, it was a chicken for some seeds while meeting on a dirt road. "This chicken will lay a golden egg for you." "These seeds willl grow the finest beans." (You get the picture.) Today, it's money/credit for products and services online. But we all started by telling our story. And, depending on which side of the line you lean (marketing or sales), your story might have a slightly different purpose, with a unified goal of making the sale.

I've always been sheltered from the sales side of my work. I worked on the "creative" side in publishing. The suits handled all the financial stuff, we creatives just made sure we offered the best content for them to sell. My only cold calling happened when I needed a quote for a story. It just didn't seem like sales to me. As my career evolved, I knew a lot of people who were already familiar with my work and my style. Through word of mouth, they hired me and, well, word gets around, so I get to write this column today.

You might say that I've been selling all along, that my quotas were calculated in word counts, white papers and blogrolls, that my leads have been honed meticulously throughout the years with every informant. My sales career is a work in progress.

Marketing and sales are intrinsically tied, but there is a definite space between the two. I experience it every day. Follow along as I tell the story of my journey to bridge the gap.

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Developing the Collaborative Habit in Sales and Consulting

Posted by Site Admin on Mon, Jan 25, 2010
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By Elisabeth Watson

I don’t have it. Being a typical Type A consultant, who is supposed to know something about any problem tossed in my direction, I don’t collaborate. I hunker down and noodle things through. I don’t come up for air until I have something that is ready for prime time – or at least the day time soaps.  You know the old “don’t complain unless you have a solution?”  That sounds good, but it does have a basic flaw.  It ignores the impact, creativity and ideas that the other six billion people on the planet already have or will come up with. Or, more practically, the other 20 people on the project.

Twyla Tharp, the famous choreographer, has just written a book, The Collaborative Habit: Life Lessons for Working Together, about the 40-something years that she has spent collaborating with the best dancers, musicians, designers, and producers of our time. (At the risk of dating myself, including David Byrne. How cool is that?)  The book is on its way to me, but the title alone has made me think.  We all talk about collaboration at work.  We get reviewed based on our ability to be a “team player” (although that seems to refer to ‘taking one for the team’ more often than not).  The technology tools that enable collaboration are some of the few survivors of the economic downturn.

Great. We’re sharing our information, reusing our knowledge, leveraging our expertise, and working like a team, thanks to all this good stuff.  Except we’re not, or not as well as we’d like to.  We all have those colleagues who never update the CRM, and those who dump enormous useless stuff on it.  We can’t ever find what we need on the portal.  Worse, someone calls us and asks us to find it for them.  We stay up all night on a proposal or a problem only to find out that someone over in another division sold it/solved it last year. We put the customer through unnecessary cycles because we are unprepared, uninformed, and detached from the rest of the organization.

Maybe we have a little way to go on collaboration.  Maybe part of the problem is that we need Twyla’s collaborative habit.  When I told Jim Horan, President and CEO of The One Page Business Plan Company and author of The One Page Business Plan, about the book, he said,

“If all those artists and cultural types can set aside their star status and collaborate, you’d think that we can do it in business.”

“I don’t know, Jim. Our egos are bigger than theirs.”  Perhaps ego is commensurate with exec/movie star compensation.  But that is an issue for another day.

What does collaboration mean?  It probably doesn’t refer to the discussion you’re having with the guy down the hall who works in your division and went to your university.  More likely, collaboration challenges occur:
  • Across geography and time zones
  • Across business functions
  • Across cultures, both societal and business
  • Across hierarchies
  • Across technologies
Worse, misplaced competition between functions or sales reps—or anyone—can remove any motivation to meet these challenges.  It seems to me that if we want to gain the benefits of collaboration, even those as simple as avoiding duplicate effort (or as complex as strategic account management), we need to look first at these organization barriers to collaboration.

We also need to really understand what we expect to gain, how we communicate those expectations, and how we’ll know if we’ve met them. We have to be able to answer the essential questions, like:
  • What specific benefits does your organization expect to get from collaboration?
  • Does everyone know about those expectations?
  • Is there an incentive for collaboration?
  • What projects, content or knowledge development do you expect people to collaborate on?
  • Do your people know how to collaborate?  Do they know how to disseminate and find powerful information?
  • Are your collaboration tools/technologies tuned to enable the benefits you expect?
Once we’ve looked at those questions, we can review each of the obstacles and look at some solutions.  Over the next weeks and months, my colleague, Pete Krammer, and I will be doing that here and inviting you to help us take this problem apart and solve it.

In the meantime, think about this:  Do you have the collaborative habit?  If you do, how does it change your behavior?  How does it impact your organization?  And, most importantly, how does it impact your customer?


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Sales Force Branding: Positioning for One

Posted by Pete Krammer on Fri, Jun 12, 2009
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People buy from people. Trite but true, whether it's B-to-B, B-to-C, complex or simple business relationships. Successful salespeople never lose sight of that little fact. Talk to one and ask them. Look in the mirror and ask yourself!

What complicates things is how many options there are for meeting people, from Twitter, LinkedIn, or Facebook to plain old networking meetings held by local organizations, and everything in-between. Perhaps no matter how much your company spends on marketing, sooner or later, the buyer is going to check YOU out, on their own, without your knowledge. They want to see if you're the kind of person they want to do business with.

Knowing that, how will you position yourself? Do you want to portray a conservative persona on LinkedIn and a cool one on Facebook? Would you rant on Twitter or "keep your powder dry" knowing that your potential customer might be shopping you instead of your company? One thing is for sure, when everybody shops the Web, your presence is required and your privacy is not the buyer's concern. 

Companies spend an enormous amount of energy and money trying to control the buyer-seller conversation on their websites. However the trip shoppers take, of their own choosing, on their way to a buying decision tells us an interesting story. When we analyze the traffic on our own site, we see people moving from the home page to the blog, to the team page and then out of the site, moving on definitely to LinkedIn and probably to Facebook or Twitter. I think this is common.

So, the moral is YOU, whether you are the owner, CEO, VP Sales, or an account executive, may have more to do with how enticing your product or service looks to the buyer than any feature, benefit or research paper that the marketing department can come up with.    

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Recession sales strategy: Start accelerating your customers' recovery

Posted by Debbie Dickinson on Fri, Apr 10, 2009
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With the recession in full tilt, businesses are imploding everyday. But implosion has some positives. Dilapidated systems, out of date process, unsafe business practices get updated and values recover. Improvements come out of the dust and rubble with planning and appropriate reactions to the current state. 

Have you watched any of your customers' business implode? If you've been paying attention, you know the reasons businesses are failing.

A key opportunity for these times is to identify how and where we can help our customers through what may be the most difficult challenges they have ever faced. Before you or your sales force next call on that valued customer you want to keep, ask yourself (and answer) these questions:
  • Specifically, what business challenge is hurting your customer?  (“The recession” is not a specific-enough answer.)
  • How would you counsel the leaders in the organization to take a different path?
  • What is threatening the leaders of the organization?
  • How would your service help minimize or eliminate these threats?
  • What are the long term benefits?
  • How can your customer implement your service and realize benefits quickly? 

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Part II: Improve Your Sales Force with Outside-In Selling

Posted by Jeff Williams on Tue, Mar 31, 2009
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Outside-In selling -- may the best product win . . . not always!
by Jeff Williams


Second in a Series
As part of the on-going discussion about how an Outside-In sales organization operates, let’s talk for a moment about the importance of the product. 

Many companies -- more than would like to admit it -- believe that customers buy from them because they have the best product in the market.  Well, in some cases (like advanced technology) this philosophy can appear to work for a while, luring the unwitting company down the road of complacency (best case), or the road of arrogance (worst case).  In either situation, the sales successes that are enjoyed early in the game tend to disappear, leaving sales management scratching their heads and asking, “What happened to our lead?”  

The piece that can be easily overlooked during the “we have the best product in the market” exuberance phase is that customers rarely buy based upon who has the best product.  Instead, we find that they are more often looking for a supplier who demonstrates a true understanding of their business and can help them solve underlying business problems.  And, solving complex business problems requires more staying power than simply having the current hot product.  

An Outside-In sales organization builds an understanding of the customer through active listening, and finds ways to strengthen the relationship with the customer over time.  By building trust with the customer, the Outside-In sales team can effectively remove perceived risk in the customer’s purchase decision-making process.  Whether the sale is for something as simple as a single copy machine for the shipping dock, or as complex as a new company-wide accounts payable system, the customer is interested in a lot more than just the initial purchase.  Aspects like long-term reliability, serviceability, and alignment to company values can all play a big role.  Many times the deciding factor comes down to something as simple as how easy it is to “do business” with you.  Rather than the performance attributes or feature set of your product, a mundane thing such as flexible credit terms that fit the customer’s buying process could spell the difference between Deal or No Deal.  

As a case in point: a Fortune 50 computer company I worked for was being consistently beaten by its arch rival in the scientific server market place. Despite having a superior product, customers were beginning to turn to the competitor as a better alternative, and this was causing some consternation for our sales and marketing organization, since we could not fathom why customers were gravitating towards a clearly inferior product. Well, as it turned out, our quoting process had become so bureaucratic that turn around time on new quotes had grown to longer than 14 days. By asking customers what was important in making their purchase decision, our competitor discovered our Achilles heel, and quickly developed a streamlined quoting process that could produce a quote to customers in less than 48 hours. Needless to say, the competition continued to take away market share until we woke up and addressed the real underlying issue. Thus, by steadfastly staying in tune with the unique needs of customers, the Outside-In sales organization – in this case, our competitor – stayed one step ahead of us, even though we had the best product.

I would love to learn about your own experiences with an Outside-In sales organization, so please let me know your thoughts, and what examples you have seen.

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Business-to-Business Relationships: Service Matters

Posted by Debbie Dickinson on Tue, Mar 03, 2009
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Everyone knows what a difference great customer service makes. In B(usiness) to C(onsumer), great service has direct, daily impact on revenue.  Consumers rate service with their feet.  Poor service means customers walk away never to return. Great services encourage customers to come back, again and again, and bring friends.  People want to do business where they are respected and treated well.

Is the same true in business-to-business relationships?  In the B-to-B market, connections take place behind the scenes, with little or no end user contact.  How can standards of service apply here?  Let’s consider the case of six meat packaging plants and a national supplier of lunchmeat to retail grocery stores. Imagine you work as a purchasing agent for the national supplier.  It is your job to review the plants and make a choice as to which of the six best choices will get your business.  Here is how you rate them:
  • One plant has great product.
  • Another plant has great product and is always reliable.
  • Plant number three has great product, is reliable, and competitively priced.
  • The fourth plant has great product, is reliable, competitively priced and helps your business succeed through service that makes you more competitive.
  • Our final plant option has great product, is reliable, competitively priced, helps your business succeed through service that makes you more competitive AND doing business with them is easy and fun.
The final choice, put in these terms of comparison makes the decision easy, right? Thinking with the mindset of a purchasing agent, how much does your decision making in business differ from how you make personal buying decisions? Many B-to-B suppliers operate with the assumption that they have little in common with service icons from the B-to-C world.  Look again. Here’s a challenge for those of you in the B-to-B market:  List three places you personally frequent.  Beyond convenience, what are the top two reasons you do business with these establishments?  Now turn it around:  What is one compelling reason to do business with you that you can repackage and offer your customers?    

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